We're a small diversified farm located near Tunnel Hill in Southern Illinois.  Surrounded by the Shawnee National Forest, our farm rests upon a watershed divide between the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers.  This both literally and figuratively connects us to the land from river to river.  We farm and live as sustainably as possible. 

Retired from the Navy, we, John and Tam Pirmann, have returned to our home in Southern Illinois to live out our dream of living off the land. 

We grow and craft products that are good for your body, inside and out.  We offer goats milk and honey soaps and lotions, homegrown luffa, a variety of vegetables, and our fresh baby ginger and turmeric in the fall. 

Farm Fresh Soap

Goat milk products

The girls in our goat herd provide us with the milk and a local farm provides the honey for our goat milk and honey soap. Tam makes a goats milk and honey soap with all natural ingredients. Olive, sustainable palm, coconut, and castor oils are blended with the goat milk, honey and lye.  After saponification, what is left is a mild and richly moisturizing bar of soap.  They are then cured for at least four weeks to ensure a long lasting bar.  All of Tam's soap are made in small batches to guarantee the best quality.

We also make a thick and rich goat milk lotion as well as a luscious Butter Balm lip balm.

Specialty Crops

Ginger and Turmeric

We grow fresh baby ginger and turmeric in our hoop houses and high tunnel.  Both have a long growing season, with our patience paying off in September.  The baby ginger is a beautiful tender tuber with great flavor and a real kick.  Our turmeric is a beautiful,colorful tuber full of healthy goodness.  If you've never had fresh baby ginger or turmeric, you're in for a flavorful treat.

We also grow other veggies throughout the spring and summer.

Where to find our products

River to River Farm products can be found in a variety of places. Our soaps and sundries can be found at

• Neighborhood Co-op in Carbondale

• Pack Rats Antique Mall in Cobden ( look for Homestead Marketplace)

• Natural Cures and Creations in Vienna

• Crystal & Spice in Belleville

River to River Farm is also a member of Little Egypt Alliance of Farmers.  LEAF is a coop of farms come together to offer a wide variety of produce, meat, eggs, and value added products in an online market, CSA style.  We also have a restaurant portal. Interested? Click here to view the LEAF website.

You can also find us at the Vienna Farmer's Market on Saturday mornings at the park.

We also can be found at various craft shows in the fall.  Check our Facebook page for updates.